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		<title>Science Foo Camp 2008: Chapter 2 &#8211; The Hotel</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The SciFoo experience begins before the first session &#8211; even before we get to the Googleplex (Get thee to the Googleplex!).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencecomedian.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/scifoologo150x125extremesaturation.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-293" title="SciFoo logo" src="http://www.sciencecomedian.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/scifoologo150x125extremesaturation.jpg" alt="" /></a>There was the Wiki, <a title="The SciFoo Wiki" href="http://www.sciencecomedian.com/blog/2008/08/19/science-foo-camp-2008-chapter-1-the-wiki-what-i-missed/">as previously discussed</a>, for first virtual encounters.  Then SciFoo weekend arrived.&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SciFoo experience begins before the first session &#8211; even before we get to the Googleplex (Get thee to the Googleplex!).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencecomedian.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/scifoologo150x125extremesaturation.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-293" title="SciFoo logo" src="http://www.sciencecomedian.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/scifoologo150x125extremesaturation.jpg" alt="" /></a>There was the Wiki, <a title="The SciFoo Wiki" href="http://www.sciencecomedian.com/blog/2008/08/19/science-foo-camp-2008-chapter-1-the-wiki-what-i-missed/">as previously discussed</a>, for first virtual encounters.  Then SciFoo weekend arrived.</p>
<p>On Friday afternoon, my taller half and I checked into the <a title="Wild Palms Hotel" href="http://www.jdvhotels.com/wild_palms/?cid=gl_wld">Wild Palms Hotel</a> in Sunnyvale.  Sadly, jealously, Tara would not be joining me at the unconference.  As I frolicked at the vast Google empire, she&#8217;d be getting to know every square inch of our little hotel room.  Whereas I&#8217;d be interacting with 200 scientists and science and science fiction writers, she&#8217;d be interfacing with a stack of science and science fiction books.  I&#8217;d have Neal Stephenson; <a title="Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors - Sagan &amp; Druyan" href="http://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Forgotten-Ancestors-Carl-Sagan/dp/0345384725/"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-351" title="shadows-of-forgotten-ancestors150" src="http://www.sciencecomedian.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/shadows-of-forgotten-ancestors150.jpg" alt="" width="108" height="164" /></a>she&#8217;d have <a title="The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson" href="http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Age-Illustrated-Primer-Spectra/dp/0553380966/"><em>The Diamond Age</em></a>.  I&#8217;d have Ann Druyan; she&#8217;d have <a title="Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors - Sagan &amp; Druyan" href="http://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Forgotten-Ancestors-Carl-Sagan/dp/0345384725/"><em>Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors</em></a>.</p>
<p>Shuttles would begin ferrying campers to the Googleplex around 5:15pm.  Tara and I went down to the hotel lobby a little early to join the gathering crowd.  We rounded a corner and bumped right into Esther and George Dyson, <a title="George and Esther Dyson" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/betsythedevine/2744769165/">sitting exactly as captured here in their natural habitat by Betsy Devine</a>.  They were very sweet and wished us first-timers a great experience.</p>
<p><a title="The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson" href="http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Age-Illustrated-Primer-Spectra/dp/0553380966/"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-352" title="diamondage150" src="http://www.sciencecomedian.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/diamondage150.jpg" alt="" width="84" height="134" /></a>Minutes later, <a title="Prabhat Agarwal" href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/82b/a43">Prabhat Agarwal</a> introduced himself.  Prabhat is a former condensed-matter physicist who now works for the <a href="http://cordis.europa.eu/fp7/ict/fet-open/">Future and Emerging Technologies Unit</a> at the European Commission.  His job is to identify and support new areas of information-related science, and he told us about his personal interest in how we recognize something as new.  I&#8217;m still convinced that we rely mostly on the new-concept smell.</p>
<p><a title="Jim Hardy" href="http://www.gahaga.com/mt.htm">Jim Hardy</a> has a pic from a few minutes later of <a title="Brian and Tara and Brian and Gia" href="http://fredcobio.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/stranger-in-a-strange-land-part-ii-scifoo-08-day-1/">Tara and me talking to Brian Cox and his wife Gia Milinovich</a>.  Tara and Gia are <a title="in opposition" href="http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_(astronomy_and_astrology)">in opposition</a>, and I&#8217;m nearly totally eclipsed by Brian.  John Gilbey&#8217;s left eye makes a special uncredited appearance.  [Jim sends along this <a title="Brian and Tara and Brian and Gia" href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lizfrog62/SciFooDay1#5232414805224883362 ">link to a bigger version</a>]</p>
<p>This was the first of several conversations I&#8217;d have with Brian and Gia.  Brian is a particle physicist who works on the <a title="ATLAS" href="http://atlas.ch/">ATLAS</a> experiment at the <a title="Large Hadron Collider" href="http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/">Large Hadron Collider</a> at CERN in Geneva.  Gia calls herself a science groupie and broadcaster.  She&#8217;s worked on some pretty cool stuff like the CERN podcast and <a title="Walking With Robots" href="http://www.walkingwithrobots.org/">Walking with Robots</a> and the new X-Files movie.</p>
<p>They are not only a couple but also a couple of the people I&#8217;d see the most throughout the weekend.  We ended up in a lot of the same sessions, although I was sorry to miss Brian&#8217;s LHC session.</p>
<p>We talked a bit about the LHC and laughed about the well-publicized fear that it would create micro-black holes that would destroy the Earth.  Although there is a chance that MBH&#8217;s will be created, it would require that the universe contain a few extra unseen dimensions, an aspect that is wished for by string theorists and others but still unproven (at least by us terrans in our local 4-dimensional spacetime realm).  Also, if created, the black holes would be so small and likely disappear so quickly (due to <a title="Hawking Radiation" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation">Hawking Radiation</a>) that they may be undetectable by the LHC&#8217;s sensors.  A far cry from devouring the planet.</p>
<p>For an excellent fictional treatment of a similar catastrophe on Mars, check out Larry Niven&#8217;s Hugo Award-winning short story, <a title="The Hole Man" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hole_Man"><em>The Hole Man</em></a>.  Much fun!</p>
<p>A few minutes before we started boarding the shuttles, <a title="Steve Goldfinger" href="http://www.footprintnetwork.org/gfn_sub.php?content=whoweare#steve">Steve Goldfinger</a> introduced himself to me and Tara.  He lives up in the Marin area, as I recall, and we live in SF.  Steve is co-founder of <a title="Global Footprint Network" href="http://www.footprintnetwork.org/">Global Footprint Network</a>.  We sat together on the ride to the Googleplex, discussing sustainability (his field) and science comedy (mine).</p>
<p>Steve also mentioned having been impressed with some science fiction by <a title="Kim Stanley Robinson" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Stanley_Robinson">Kim Stanley Robinson</a> &#8211; although we laughed when he accidentally called him &#8220;Kim Stanley Andersen,&#8221; which I suggested was a mash-up with  Hans Christian Andersen.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know which Robinson work he was talking about but sustainability was a major theme (which it often is for Robinson) and it was not the <a title="Mars Trilogy" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy">Mars Trilogy</a> (perhaps the <a title="Three Californias Trilogy" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Californias_Trilogy">Three Californias Trilogy</a> or his most recent novels <a title="Forty Signs of Rain" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_Signs_of_Rain"><em>Forty Signs of Rain</em></a> and <a title="Fifty Degrees Below" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Degrees_Below"><em>Fifty Degrees Below</em></a>).</p>
<p>As we arrived at Google, Steve and I exchanged business cards.  I had a great time chatting with him, but after we left the shuttle, I only ever saw him in passing perhaps once more.</p>
<div id="attachment_353" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><a href="http://www.sciencecomedian.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/tara-reads-niven.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-353" title="tara-reads-niven" src="http://www.sciencecomedian.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/tara-reads-niven.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Tara reads Niven &amp; Pournelle&#39;s The Mote in God&#39;s Eye. On the nightstand: Asimov&#39;s The God&#39;s Themselves, Sagan &amp; Druyan&#39;s Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors, Farmer&#39;s To Your Scattered Bodies Go, Jill Bolte Taylor&#39;s My Stroke of Insight. Tara is a voracious reader.</p></div>
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